Is it illegal to sell a puppy with demodectic mange?
I bought a puppy on May 26, 2009 and today i went to a vet to discuss strange hairless spots appearing on his body about a week or two at most ago. We did a scrape test to test for mange and the test came back negative. But there is a possibility that he does have demodectic mange. IF he does have mange, it is not showing up right now because of the early stage he is in. I was given a medicated shampoo and wait two weeks to go back and see how his condition is and for another test.
I did a little bit of research and from listing to my vet…Demodectic Mange (he has the generalized form– it covers his whole body not one little area) is not a contagious form of mange. It is caused from the immune system having a “glitch” which does not protect him from the mange. Not only is it hereditary but puppies get mange to begin with from the mother when cuddling and nursing the puppies in their early days. One of my friends told me that it is illegal to sell a dog with mange. The websites also says that you are not to breed dogs with generalized demodectic mange, so I was wondering exactly what are the rules as far as breeding dogs with mange! Thanks all your help will be Greatly appreciated!!!
Thanks so much for all the answers I already have. I AM KEEPING MY PUPPY, no questions asked about it! As of right now he is not in pain which is the good news but i don’t want it to get worse and he start being miserable!! My puppy is a boy and I planned on breeding him with my neighbor’s dog but now i realize that if it is mange that won’t be possible. I recieved my dog from a breeder and i was not told if the mom or dad had it or not. I plan on contacting the people once I get a 100% certain answer on what my puppy has.
The breeder, if it was a good breeder, should pay for any medications your pet needs til about 6 months old. Or allow you to return your pup for a refund.
It is illegal to sell an animal with any condition like that. It obviously means the condition and surroundings the dog was in were deplorable and filthy. I would report this to the animal control and aspca. Please do that!
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The breeder, if it was a good breeder, should pay for any medications your pet needs til about 6 months old. Or allow you to return your pup for a refund.
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If you love the doggie, you will get him well. The rest, you can’t do much about.
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No, it is not illegal to sell a puppy which has demodectic mange.
If the seller knew about this before you bought it, they should have said something for the health of the puppy but there is no law saying they have to tell you, have to sell a completely healthy puppy, or sell a puppy with a health problem.
There is no way to prove or disprove that the owner did or did not know about this condition. If you feel it necessary, you could contact the owner and ask for medical compensation for any bills.
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Unless you got a health guarantee with the dog, you are out of luck.
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I doubt that ir is illegal, but it is highly unethical. Contact the breeder as spoon as it is confirmed. Did you get any kind of contract or health guarantee?
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You’d have to prove that the breeder deliberately bred dogs knowing they had mange or a history of mange. That’s hard to do since most dogs carry the demodex mites on them but only a few get sick from it because, as you said, a glitch or weak immune system. In the meantime, google the words "Goodwinol Cream". It’s amazing stuff that gets rid of most demodex in a few weeks. You apply it once daily for 2-3 weeks. Great stuff. Ask your vet if you can use it in addition to the shampoo they prescribed. Also be sure it’s not sarcoptic mange which is a whole other issue. For that, you need to get Revolution and use it instead of your regular flea/tick and heartworm stuff. Whatever you do, do NOT let them dip your puppy. That stuff is very toxic and dangerous.
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It’s not illegal, but it is fairly unethical, assuming the breeder/pet store knew about the mange. Demodectic mange is very common for the dog to carry, but, like your vet said, a genetic quirk in the immune system makes it show up in a small percentage of dogs. It’s a bit like how there are tons and tons of germs out there, and one person can carry a certain cold bug, for instance, and not get sick, but if they give that same bug to somebody else that second person will get a cold.
However, if this was the first time it showed up in a puppy, there is no real way to know that it was a risk. If the breeder had had problems before, then the parents should not have been bred, but having never shown the mange before, it’s just one of those chances that mother nature throws at us.
The good news is that with a medicated shampoo it can be treated quite easily. Also, the breeder/pet shop should be notified and if s/he has any kind of health guarantee, it will be covered.
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Years experience selling puppies. Also in veterinary school.
it depends on which state you live in. Some states have puppy lemon laws which state pups must be certain age & not be ill or have diseases. Here is the link so you can check your state. There are time limits that the illness must show up by & you can receive vet reimbursement.
http://www.malteseonly.com/lemon.html
Certainly no decent breeder would or would pay for vet care.
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awww!!! its rly good that you are keeping the pup and you should try to get the pup better. i have about 13 dogs and recently we had both kinds of mange come thru our pack and i know how hard and discouraging it is.. its like fighting the losing battle. but trust me it can be done you just hav to keep on the treatments that the vet gives you. i tried going by some ovr the counter stuff and it didnt work that well. as to whether it is illegal to sell a dog with mange i dont know but most of the time if you buy an animal from a pet shop they wont be all that healthy. they are usually abused and … well its just not a good home there are articles on the internet if you rly want to c wut they go thru most of the time. no you r most definatly not supposd to breed dogs that have mange. even if the dog doesnt show signs of it but has a history of it maybe the dog had it as a puppy it is VERY prone to that and other illnesses btw its rly good that you got her spayed she will live a happier life!! hope it helps a lil even tho idk the answer to the original ? !!!
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personal experience!
Im a vet tech and i do not think its illigel but it is irresponcible! People dont know this but all, yes ALL dogs have demodex mange but when their immune system gets weakened then the mange has a chance to show up. Are you going to sell your dog because it has mange and you dont want to foot the bill? Or are you asking for breeding purposes? All i can say is please dont breed your dog, there are way to many unwanted dogs in this world please dont add to it!
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If the scrape test was negative, your dog does not have demodetic mange. If there are bald spots due to demodex, then it is not an early case nor an active case or there would have been mites visible in the scraping. If your vet is telling you otherwise, he is trying to milk this thing for whatever he can get from you.
Medicated shampoos will do nothing to kill or control demodex. It must be treated systemically with internal insecticides designed to kill the mites. This is done by giving an injection, in lighter cases, along with an insecticidal dip. The injection last for about 10 days and the dip must be done every two weeks. In very severe cases, daily pills are given to which a tolerance must be built up.
If you have done your research, you would know that all puppies are born carrying the demodectic mites but that it takes something to set off the mites so that the pup’s natural system is unable to control them. It is also thought that this due to an autoimmune response failure. That is the reason that it is suggested that these animals not be used for breeding. However, a lot of this is still supposition and has not been proven. As to it being hereditary, having the mites is not because that is normal but the immune response which allows the mites to become active is possibly a hereditary function. And as I have already said, this really has not been proven as yet.
Oh, about the illegal to sell a pup with this….since most of the time this problem does not show up for several weeks to months after the pup has been sold, it is entirely possible that the breeder had no clue that there was a problem. You got your pup nearly 2 months ago and this problem is just now showing up. Since it takes some sort of stress to trigger the auto immune response, it is more than likely that you personally did something to cause the reaction to happen. In many cases, it is triggered by females coming into heat but there are also other things which will cause the puppy enough stress to create the right environment for it to occur.
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Over 40 years as an owner, breeder, handler, trainer, and instructor.
The worst practice the owner engages in is letting their dog off leash and unattended. Whether the dog is running in the park, romping on the beach or playing with other dogs, the dog is learning that these good times do not include the owner. In fact, it is always the owner who ruins the fun by ordering the dog to Come. When the dog obediently comes to the owner, his leash is promptly attached and he’s on his way home. This is not a good outcome from the dog’s perspective so on each successive outing, the dog delays coming when called because by delaying, he is prolonging his off leash fun. When the owner repeatedly calls the dog and he does not come, then the dog is learning that he doesn’t have to come – or at least he doesn’t need to come until he is called umpteen billion times. The dog has now learned that ignoring the owner is infinitely more rewarding than obeying the owner. This is definitely a lose-lose situation. If the dog comes, he is punished for coming because his off leash fun is curtailed. If the dog doesn’t come, he is learning not to come and he is being self-rewarded for ignoring the owner. Another outcome of the above situation is that the now frustrated owner feels he needs to punish Puppy for not coming when called. Because the owner does not know how to punish the dog while it is running away, the owner punishes the dog when he eventually returns. The next time the dog will take even longer to come back because not only does it end the fun but it also now means outright punishment from the owner if he does comply. s soon as Puppy says, Yes, yes! I’m hungry, I’ll do anything for that food, then you’re ready to begin. Introduce the simple recall by giving the dog a couple of nuggets of kibble for free, then quickly back up a few feet and say, Come Here. Hold the food in an outstretched hand at the dog’s nose level. Praise the dog all the time that she approaches and give the food as soon as she arrives. Once the dog comes readily, add a sit to the end of the recall and take hold of the dog’s collar before giving the food. Many dogs will come and sit, then duck or run away to avoid being touched. They will not allow themselves to be touched because past experience has shown them that this usually means bad news (from the dog’s point of view, not yours). The exercise may be repeated several times in a row with you quickly running backwards between recalls. At a more advanced level of training, the dog may be instructed to sit-stay until called. Repeat this sequence with every nugget of every meal. Make certain this exercise is performed when the dog is really motivated. If at anytime the dog loses interest, stop the training immediately and don’t allow the dog to eat anything else until the next regularly scheduled mealtime and practice session. Once the dog is responding regularly, it is time to start to thin out the food rewards. Rewards should be reserved for the dog’s better responses, i.e., only those times when she comes quickly, directly and happily. Reward with one fourth to one third of the dog’s meal instead of only one kibble or handful. During maintenance training, on average, the dog should receive one food reward per five times that she comes obediently. i hope this helps!